Peregrine, oh i thought you were implying something was wrong by Mullins as his outsider win!!!! lol! No worries mate, we have differing views and opinions and thats what racing is all about. If we all thought the same the game would be easy!
Im not naive enough to thing the game is entirely fair. My point is theres no point "fiddling" in a big race...the rewards are there to see. Thats why a very good mate of mine only bets in Group races...no point fiddling! And he has made a living out of racing for over 30 years!
Stables like Easterby (all of them!!!), O Meara, Fahey, Boyle, Best, Michael Appleby et al are on my "swerve list". Cheating is ingrained in them like their Dads, uncles et al. I remember the legendary Colin Tinkler telling my uncle that in the Low Grade Northern Handicaps (like redcar, Ripon, Catterick), the Malton lads used to decide who's turn it was and could probably name the entire finishing order....before a race!! then SIS and televised racing came in and they had to be more subtle!!! No, not just a Northern thing! Geoff Lewis, Akehurst, Atwater, Boyle, Best etc are in the rogues gallery. One of the biggest chancers has finally been outed "Mr Brisbourne" and had to back the game ! And of course the master villain "Sir Mark" who gets names like "shrewd" "clever" "master of placement" "handicapping expert"....all clever words for "C H E A T"!!!
But then again, thats why these boys rarely win a group race or even run in one, thus fairly safe to have a bet.
O Brien is different. He has an embarrassment of riches and has to run several in one race because he can never run in handicaps because the handicapper wont let him. He got have Muffin the Mule and the handicap will give it 141! So he runs hundreds in gp races and of course the "1st string2 wont always win but when the "1st string" gets beat by another O Brien horse everyone cries foul! But on closer inspection it was only rated 2lb below the "1st string"! Whos cheating? noone! Who's a mug? The punter for backing Moore at 6/4 and not backing Hefferman at 33/1! If you go back to Royal Ascot i went near max bet on heffermans at 25/1 against Moore at 2/1 and won! I also gave reasons for my choice...Moore had never ridden the "2nd string" because it was a difficult horse at home and Hefferman is considered the better horseman. Result? hefferman wins! A few on here cried cheat, a few congratulated me on spotting the cheat! I hadnt! There was NO cheat! All i did was my homework and worked out Heffermans was a better horse and thank you very much for 25/1 while the mugs went 2/1 on Ryan Moore.
so yes, i agree there is cheating in racing, lets face it, anywheres theres money , theres cheating! If drugs were free, there would be no dealers! If there was no betting there would be no Easterbys (a man can pray!!)
Anyhoo, good discussion Peregrine, exactly what the Board is for