BEST of the BETS

I have to come back to this, not only because i dont think a horse thats won 6 out of 16 can ever be rated top chaser (Its lost more than its win fgs and not always in top company) but also as an example of the Hcapper reacting before he thinks.

Cyrname's lofty 178 seems to based solely on the impressive demolition of Waiting Patiently and Politilogue at Ascot. well if hes right in his thinking (based on his irrational thinking!), surely Min is now the top Chaser in Britain and Ireland having murdered both yardsticks in a grade 1 at a championship meeting (Ascot wasnt a championship meeting), yet Min sits at a lowly 167 a full 11ibs below Cyrname. Now putting everything into context, lets say these two are equal (which in my eyes they are not as Min has won far more than Cyrname and all at the top level), yes? So they are equal for this debates purposes? Well every time Min has come near Altior, its been well and truly put in its place hasnt it...4 attempts? Never within 7 lengths and this with Altior running below its best this year. Also its stable mate Un Deuex Seux gets beat every time it comes near Altior. You may see where this is going. So lets take Altior, now its record is : 21 runs 19 wins with those defeats in NH Flat races (bumpers). It has taken on and beaten the best around. You can point to Politilogue getting close at Chelt, therefore technically Moin and Cyrname are better? Clearly , no. Altior was poorly that day im sure of it.

Anyway, my point is how can Altior be rated 175 against Cyrnames 178? 19 out oif 21 against 6 out of 16? Cyrnames been beaten off horses rated 139 (Caid Du Lin), 145 (Mister Whitaker), 151 (Finians Oscar...and that couldnt jump!), 151 (Terrefort), 137 (Big Matre) and the list goes on...well another 6 inferior horses to be exact. The fact is Altior HASNT been beaten by inferior or so called superior horses...fact.

It is not Cyrnames fault, but surely the wisdom of the Handicapper has to be called into question here. I think hes an idiot if he thinks Cyrname is 3lb better than Altior.

Open debate chaps, insults please, just a good debate about racing. Thats my view and Im sure there are contrasting ones out there although the sheer stats do point to the handicapper overeacting to a race (Ascot) that actually didnt take that much winning.