Osin Murphy Yes Jack always remember this as in the derby a race which is 1 mile and a half. These jocks are trained pro's some riding since they were knee high to a grasshopper they can put horses where ever they want in most races unless they are badly drawn but as in the derby it was embarrasing that's putting it mildly. If jocks drop your horse out early doors you know in most cases your cash is done. If they are trying they normally have them in the first 3 but time and time again me you and anyone else who knows what your looking at its bang out of order and the stewards just turn a blind eye . That is wrong they aren't doing their job . It can't be easy trying to control big beasts . But these pro's are trained . Bit like if your a racing driver or if your a joiner plumber if it's your profession you know just what to do. Tell me how many times do you see a horse rear as the gates open ? It's not by coincidence you see it regular and then the horse finish fast and the commentator come out with that old chestnut it was unlucky.still we like a bet and good money can be made ,but bookies hate losing and if you have an online account they soon close you down.they take it fast enough when you lose but win and it's a different matter.