• finley
    188
    Well done with Delilah Park D.D, I didn't realise you had posted this,I also backed it this afternoon but only had a quid, I would have probably had more if I had seen this.
  • Bodger
    166
    Done a bit of analysis on the new system longshots which I've posted over the last 3 days. There have been 24 bets (might look like more, but it is only 24). They have produced 4 winners, at (bog) 33/1, 25/1, 16/1, 11/1. I note that I only did Betfred's mostly crap non-bog prices because I either did them the night before (Betfraud only do bog in the morning, or up to a certain time in the afternoon) or I did them (first day) in a Lucky, which is always non-bog online with them. The non-bog prices I got were respectively 25/1, 25/1, 12/1, 9/1 (got the L31 boost of 4xprice on the last one though).

    There were also 3 placers at (bog) 22/1, 16/1, 16/1. Betfred non-bog taken was 22/1, 10/1, 10/1.

    What a swizz, you may say. However, the Betfred non-bog did give me a 9 point advantage with one price, Exceeding Power, got 25s and SP 16/1. If I'd taken the morning bog price I don't think it'd have been 25s.

    Anyhow, on win singles only those 4 win bets delivered overall profit of 36 points (not counting the Lucky31 price boost for a single winner). Very interestingly, doing e/w added 7 to the profit, even at Betfred non-bog! It gives an extra 7 points, so +43 overall.

    However, looking at it another way, doing 2 pts win on each selection instead of 1 pt e/w gives a return of 150 pts on outlay of 48, profit 102 pts. Again, that's Betfraud non-bog.

    However, I'd rather do e/w singles. Still good profit, safer, and avoids being annoyed when you miss out on a longshot placer.

    I don't think, now, that it's worth doing e/w multiples. Not enough placers. I was probably lucky to sneak a small profit on them today. Very small stakes win doubles and trebles on not more than 7 selections at a time are probably the way to go. Winners can bunch up, and if you catch a treble the return will be big.

    But the main thing is e/w singles. I reckon the way to do it is 1% of a rolling bank, adjusted at end of each day, but never betting less than that original 1%. So if you had a bank of £200 you'd bet £1 e/w minimum on each selection. Suggest win multiples would be not more than 10p. Even a 5p win treble should pay a minimum £60, and that's if the 3 wins were all only 10/1.
  • Bodger
    166
    Got BOG this time.

    All selections 0.5pt e/w. First bunch is 7 selections, also covered in win doubles and trebles at 1/10th full point singles unit stakes. Same applies to the second bunch, which is 6 selections:

    Catterick 12:15
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/5 1,2,3 Lough Legend 14/1
    Ffos Las 12:35
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/5 1,2,3 Magical Man 14/1
    Catterick 12:45
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/4 1,2 Duhallowcountry 33/1
    Ffos Las 13:10
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/4 1,2 Looks Frozen 28/1
    Catterick 13:50
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/5 1,2,3 Jovial Joey 16/1
    Ascot 14:40
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/5 1,2,3 Dream Bolt 14/1
    Ffos Las 14:50
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/5 1,2,3 Flashjack 10/1

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    Dundalk 18:30
    Outright Betting
    Carried 12/1
    Kempton 19:15
    Outright Betting
    Spirit Kingdom 22/1
    Dundalk 20:00
    Outright Betting
    Arbourfield 11/1
    Dundalk 20:30
    Outright Betting
    Coreczka 9/1
    Kempton 20:45
    Outright Betting
    Sotomayor 22/1
  • Bodger
    166
    3rd race in, Duhallowcountry is backed in to 22s at the off, gets a gallant second, I got 33s. 1/4 odds the place. Nice.
  • finley
    188
    Well done D.D, I missed this one,but have followed you in on the rest.
  • Bodger
    166
    Thanks finley. First bunch of 7 finished with Flashjack just done on the line, a slightly gutting 2nd at 11/1. Onto the last batch of 6. Good luck to us both.
  • Bodger
    166
    Arbourfield was a close second,11/1 bog. Not as close as Flashjack. Ended up with just 3 placers from 13. Profits took a knock. Fair to say that the jury's still out on this selection method, but worth plugging on.
  • Bodger
    166
    Need to work on these. For now, have cut them right down to a few I consider best value.

    Done an e/w L15:

    Lingfield 11:45
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/5 1,2,3 Bint Dandy 25/1
    Ascot 12:55
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/5 1,2,3 Call To Order 16/1
    Ascot 13:30
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/5 1,2,3 Kentford Heiress 18/1
    Wolverhampton 20:15
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/5 1,2,3 Cool Kitty 20/1
  • Bodger
    166
    None of those even got a sniff. Not at the end anyhow.
  • Bodger
    166
    E/W L15:

    Hereford 12:35
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/4 1,2,3,4 Buckeye Shan 33/1
    Hereford 14:05
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/5 1,2,3 Yesandno 25/1
    Punchestown 15:00
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/4 1,2,3,4 I'm An Izz Wizz 22/1
    Newcastle 16:45
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/5 1,2,3,4 Kemmeridge Bay 28/1
  • Bodger
    166
    Small stakes e/w L15:

    Leicester 13:10
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/4 1,2 Elysian Prince 16/1
    Leicester 14:15
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/4 1,2 Murchison River 11/1
    Chelmsford 19:00
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/4 1,2 Glory Awaits 20/1
    Chelmsford 19:30
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/4 1,2 Ultimate Avenue 7/1
  • Bodger
    166
    Murchison River goes in, SP 10/1, I got 1 point better than that.

    Profit guaranteed, and still 2 to go. :party:
  • CMB
    308
    Well done mate :clap:
  • finley
    188
    Well doneD.D
  • Bodger
    166
    Based on most popular longshots, or longish-shots. E/w L31:

    Market Rasen 15:15
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/5 1,2,3 Compadre 13/2
    Market Rasen 15:45
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/4 1,2 The Jugopolist 16/1
    Newcastle 15:55
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/4 1,2,3 Paris Protocol 14/1
    Newcastle 16:25
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/5 1,2,3,4 Little Choosey 9/1
    Newcastle 19:25
    Outright Betting
    EW 1/5 1,2,3 Steelriver 6/1
  • Bodger
    166
    Good start, wins 13/2.
  • CMB
    308
    Nice start well done
  • Bodger
    166
    Win Lucky15.

    These are all assorted info, including the Barking Dog tip.

    Ffos Las 15:10
    Outright Betting
    Bonne Question 15/2
    Catterick 16:50
    Outright Betting
    It's All About Me 10/3
    Wolverhampton 17:00
    Outright Betting
    Limerick Lord 8/1
    Wolverhampton 18:30
    Outright Betting
    Mr Top Hat 11/2
  • Bodger
    166
    And another:

    Leicester 14:00
    Outright Betting
    Northern Beau 15/8
    Ffos Las 15:10
    Outright Betting
    Delface 10/3
    Leicester 15:30
    Outright Betting
    Browndodd 15/2
    Ffos Las 15:40
    Outright Betting
    Yaa Salaam 10/3
  • Bodger
    166
    Nice start for second L15, wins easy by about 6 lengths.
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